Wind drift: 6.5 Creedmoor vs 308 Winchester 500 yards

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  @austino775 · 5 months ago

  Theres no question a 6.5 Creedmoor is better ballistically than .308. But if ballistic performance was the only metric to go by we'd all be shooting 6mm Arc GT Creedmoor.  Im loaded up with .308 components and rifles so im going to work with what i've got. Great video as always Erik!

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  @what_have_you_done_now · 5 months ago

  The 140 ELD Match at .646 (G1) beats the pants off 168 BTHP .450 (G1) for sure. All other things being equal, they stacked shots after a bit of DOPE'ing. Thanks for showing us how wind, velocity, and BC interact at a mere 500yds.

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• BL

  @BLCKBRD_UNCAGED · 5 months ago

  6.5 Swede has been doing Creedmoor things 116 years earlier.

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• GU

  @guardianminifarm8005 · 5 months ago

  Thanks gents. Appreciate you suffering for the cause. No complaints. The only critique I would pose would be giving the 6.5 a BTHP version or give the 308 an ELDM. When I run the Hornady BTHP against the ELDM in my ballistic models in my 308 the ELDM is noticeably more efficient.<br>But the test is definitely a good demonstration of wind drift with very good shooters. Thanks for doing it.

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• AL

  @albertlorenzen3048 · 5 months ago

  The 6.5 Creedmore , is a 6.5×55 in a different casing, no better no worse.<br>I hand load the 6.5×55, with a 160 grain speed round nose bullet.<br>I lived in the Yukon.<br>I have a rule, do not shoot at an animal, further than 100-150 yards away. At that range that 160 grain speed will go right through the chest of a large Moose. Dead with one shot.<br>The 308 is the same, a 30.06 in a shorter casing, &nbsp;at similar range, a 180 grain bullet, will drop a Grizzly, &nbsp;one shot.<br>By the way, the 308 designed to be the same as a 30.06 but a lighter casing, your average soldier can carry more ammunition.

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  @Danthrax66 · 5 months ago

  It looked like the 308 was hitting more consistently in the same spot with the wind on the first set of tests when you were trying to wait for gusts. I think swapping guns halfway through would have also been a good thing to add to the experiment just to try to rule out shooter variance as much as possible.

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• RO

  @ronkasallis8587 · 5 months ago

  I shoot a 6.5 Creedmoor in F-Open . I shot my first Clean at the 2026 SWN Midrange 200 13X . That day i dropped 7 points. Seeing that this was my second time shooting the SWN I was happy with my results. I do like the cartridge but it doesn’t walk on water. Keep them centered.

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• CL

  @clintcarpenter8423 · 5 months ago

  Greetings from Oklahoma, where the wind blows. Just ordered my first 308. Been shooting 6.5 cm because of the wind. Another great video

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• RU

  @ruanschmidt6207 · 5 months ago (edited)

  Would&apos;ve like to see the 308 with the 168gr ELD-M rather than the 168gr BTHP. That would&apos;ve been a more &quot;apples to apples&quot; comparison or have the 6.5 CM shoot the 140gr BTHP vs the 168gr BTHP. Again, apples to apples. <br><br>Ballistically, the 6.5 bullet is more efficient I agree, but it kinda feels plastic when you put a schoolbus vs a corvette instead of an old school corvette vs new school corvette. <br><br>Just run that test again with the 168gr ELD-M for the 308 at 500 yards. After that we can put this to bed for good.<br><br>That 168gr BTHP has piss poor BC.

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  @johndees967 · 5 months ago

  This was REALLY interesting. Very good format this!!!!! Here is my takeaway from this video. Both rifles are similar in raw grouping ability. I would not choose the one over the other based on this. 2. We have brilliant optics, so you can simply set the windage once your waterline elevation is established. I was expecting the 308 to have a longer or more elongated wind drift pattern. But i did not really see this at 500m. How about repeating this exact format at 1000m???? This was bloody brilliant though, &nbsp;if anything, it validated for me that the 308 is still a very viable platform, to the extent that a normal guy like me can go buy into the 308 ecosystem of bullet weights without worrying that i am shorting myself somehow. &nbsp;The 2 shooters at a time is bloody brilliant mate.. and showing it on screen like that is AWESUM! Well done!!

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  @GuyGooding-q9o · 5 months ago

  Good practical demonstration of &nbsp;external &nbsp;ballistics &nbsp;. &nbsp;Higher &nbsp;Bc &nbsp;and &nbsp;velocity &nbsp; wins in the &nbsp;wind &nbsp;, drops less and &nbsp;retains &nbsp;more &nbsp;energy &nbsp; . &nbsp;No surprise that the &nbsp;140gr &nbsp;6.5 &nbsp;projectile &nbsp; out &nbsp;performs &nbsp;the &nbsp;.308 &nbsp;projectile &nbsp;! &nbsp;One &nbsp;bullet &nbsp;just &nbsp;flies &nbsp;more &nbsp;efficiently than &nbsp;the &nbsp;other &nbsp;, started faster &nbsp;too &nbsp;! &nbsp;Good &nbsp;shooting &nbsp;boys and &nbsp;thanks for the &nbsp;video &nbsp;demonstration &nbsp;! Cheers 🥂 and &nbsp;keep&apos;em &nbsp;center

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  @martinward7239 · 5 months ago

  This was a great demonstration between six and half dozen.

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